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mandrill7 17.08.2010 02:45

Army Group Centre/Группа армий "Центр" (made by mandrill7)
 
I have a map for Belarus which covers the area Polotsk-Vyazma-Bryansk-Gomel-Bobruisk.

I gave up working on it about a year ago because it was taking so much time. Now I am starting to do more work on it.

The basic map is done and about half the roads, railways and airfields are put in. Because the map is so large, much of the terrain is still unfinished.

I anticipate that it might be ready to populate in the autumn if I keep working on it. While I do not want to be a "quitter", a map of this size takes months and months to complete.

Dancing Bear 17.08.2010 04:57

У меня есть карта для Белоруссии, которая покрывает Полоцк-Bryansk-Gomel-Bobruisk области.

Я бросил работать над этим приблизительно год назад, потому что требовалось так много времени. Теперь я начинаю делать больше работы над этим.

Основная карта сделана и приблизительно половина дорог, железные дороги и аэродромы вставлены. Поскольку карта является настолько большой, большая часть ландшафта все еще незакончена.

Я ожидаю, что это могло бы быть готово населить осенью, если я продолжаю работать над этим. В то время как я не хочу быть "лодырем", карта этого размера занимает месяцы и месяцы, чтобы закончить.

Примерно так...

Uzin 01.09.2010 13:51

Сейчас получил такой вот пост на ААС от mandrill7. Прошу помочь етому картоделу , поделиться с ним инфой. Думая, што вопросы понятны.

1940's maps of Belarus, Ukraine?
Can you help me ask on the Aviaskins board for guys who have city plans of Smolensk, Orsha, Mogilev, Vitebsk, Gomel', Bryansk or Dnepropetrovsk? I have nothing except modern maps and these are very inaccurate for 1940's.

As well, I badly need a detailed map of the Dnepr from Kanev to Dnepropetrovsk. The maps I have are modern and therefore completely inaccurate because of the big new reservoirs.

Any help appreciated.

mandrill7 11.09.2010 06:23

My Army Group Centre map should be available as a WiP in a week or two.

The map will be done, except for populating and some tidying up. I will be getting a new (and far more powerful) computer in a few weeks and that will be handy to populate the map.

skvorez 05.10.2010 15:35

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My Army Group Centre map should be available as a WiP in a week or two.

The map will be done, except for populating and some tidying up. I will be getting a new (and far more powerful) computer in a few weeks and that will be handy to populate the map.

Thanks, are very interesting and necessary card. And when it will be possible to see a beta the version.

mandrill7 05.10.2010 15:58

It is taking a little longer than I thought. I have done the airfields and the big cities - Mogilev, Vitebsk, Polotsk, Gomel, Borisov, Babruisk, Orsha and Bryansk - and also most of the smaller cities - Vyazma, Roslavl, etc.

I need a map of Smolensk from the 1940's and then I can do it too.

I am finishing a template for the small towns and then I can do them as well.

The map is currently perfectly flyable.

Mixx 07.10.2010 10:55

mandrill7,

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_007.htm

Here you will find the necessary parts to you from the big map of the Smolensk region (1937 -1939):

http://www.vseokladah.ru/forum/2-61-1

Here is the translation of this page:

http://translate.google.com.ua/trans...forum%2F2-61-1

P / S. Please give a link where to look for your project?

mandrill7 08.10.2010 01:55

Spassiba, Mixx. I will check out that site a little more.

Actually, I found a street map of Smolensk on the wwii-photos-maps.com site that I can use, along with Google Earth to give me an good idea of the size and shape of World War Two Smolensk and so I can finish it.

My Belarus map has not been uploaded yet.

BTW, I am also beginning to work a little on a "Cherkassy Pocket" project which will cover the Dnepr from Dnepropetrovsk to just south of Kiev. I have the 1:50,000 maps for the area from the wwii site, but there are 3 or 4 missing from the site.

Do you know an alternate Web source for these maps?

mandrill7 12.10.2010 00:11

"Privyet!" ot Smolenska.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...smolensk02.jpg

mandrill7 12.10.2010 00:12

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...smolensk01.jpg

mandrill7 19.10.2010 03:57

Here is the 2D map.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ans/map001.jpg

skvorez 19.10.2010 17:54

to Mandill7


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagarin,_Russia

Till 1968 the city was called Gzhatsk. Into 1968 city has been renamed in "Gagarin" in honour of the first-ever cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin who was born in 1934 in village Klushino close by a city and the perished in 1968.

http://www.gagarinadmin.ru/index/0-24
http://www.gagarinadmin.ru/photo/sta...nyj_gzhatsk/24

Mixx 19.10.2010 18:31

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Here is the 2D map.

A large area!
My congratulations for such a great job!:beer:
Pls, show more screenshots of this map...

mandrill7 19.10.2010 22:27

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to Mandill7


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagarin,_Russia

Till 1968 the city was called Gzhatsk. Into 1968 city has been renamed in "Gagarin" in honour of the first-ever cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin who was born in 1934 in village Klushino close by a city and the perished in 1968.

Thank you. I am happy to get information to help me with this project! :)

mandrill7 28.10.2010 07:03

Here are 3 more screenshots.

Here, I am flying over Krugloye, a village west of Orsha in Belarus.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...krugloye01.jpg

mandrill7 28.10.2010 07:04

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nkovichi01.jpg

I am flying over Besankovichi, a small town on the Dvina River between Polotsk and Vitebsk.

mandrill7 28.10.2010 07:05

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1.../bryansk01.jpg

Here, I am flying north along the Desna River over the southern part of Bryansk.

deSAD 28.10.2010 12:21

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... I am flying north along the Desna River over the southern part of Bryansk.

Nice :good: How about sand on coast of the rivers? :rolleyes:

mandrill7 28.10.2010 16:54

Thanks.

I preferred the green texture for riverbanks.

Mixx 28.10.2010 20:10

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Dvina River between Polotsk and Vitebsk

Interesting work.
You are doing yourself a texture fields? (Colored plots)

deSAD 29.10.2010 00:43

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... I preferred the green texture for riverbanks.

I see :rolleyes: But why? :I'm_thinking:

mandrill7 29.10.2010 01:02

@ DeSad: Just personal taste, I guess. I prefer to just use the beach texture for sea coasts.

@Mixx: I have made several variants on the basic Romania lowlands textures to achieve various results. There are autumn textures with the crops replaced by bare, brown earth. I have moved the yellow and brown fields around on the "summer" textures. And I have made a texture with blue " drainage canals" which you see in the Dvina screenshot.

This is an attempt to portray the vast areas of drained marshland in Belarus. There are extensive areas in which drainage canals have been dug to allow the land to be made drier and used for farming.

I am not 100% happy with the texture; but it is more satisfactory than just using ordinary tiles that do not indicate a difference from the normal land.

I used a Romania tile and cut and pasted the canals from Compans' Dutch tile onto it and then tidied it up a little.

I also made a "green" version of the standard Slovakia "country" tile so it looked better with the Romania tiles I use.

deSAD 29.10.2010 12:31

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... Just personal taste, I guess. I prefer to just use the beach texture for sea coasts.

ОК. Whether it is possible to see more screenshots?

P.S.
It seems to me that sometimes sand ashore would be useful :rolleyes:

mandrill7 31.10.2010 07:18

Here the plane is flying north along the Sozh River, over the city of Gomel'. I am using a Autumn load.ini.http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...l-autumn01.jpg

mandrill7 31.10.2010 07:20

the plane is flying south along the Sozh river over the village of Krichev, north of Gomel'. The area to the east of the river is marshland.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1.../krichev01.jpg

mandrill7 30.01.2011 22:25

I am now working with a new, more powerful computer and anticipate having a beta version of the "Army Group Centre" map available to download by the end of February or sooner. :-)

deSAD 31.01.2011 00:14

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... beta version of the "Army Group Centre" map available to download by the end of February or sooner. :-)

Excellent news! :good: Successes in work! :ok:

mandrill7 22.02.2011 03:26

The map will be ready in 4 or 5 days, maybe less.

I am interested in testing for download and installation problems before generally announcing the map on the English language boards. If anyone is interested in a "preview", please let me know. :-)

deSAD 22.02.2011 17:23

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The map will be ready in 4 or 5 days, maybe less.

Great news :good:
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I am interested in testing for download and installation problems before generally announcing the map on the English language boards. If anyone is interested in a "preview", please let me know. :-)

Perhaps, just here to publish? Who will become interested, that and will download ;)

mandrill7 23.02.2011 05:28

No. I will publish on the English language forums as well.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ns/2dmap01.jpg

mandrill7 23.02.2011 05:28

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ns/2dmap02.jpg

Skvorez 23.02.2011 08:58

Super!

Kaiser 23.02.2011 10:57

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I am interested in testing for download and installation problems

We are ready to become testers. :thx:
(Kampfgeschwader 55)

mandrill7 23.02.2011 16:21

Spassiba, Kaiser. I will let you know when I have a download link up and your squad can test the map for a week or two.

Appreciate the help!

mandrill7 27.02.2011 21:37

Guten Tag / Privyet, Kaiser!

Here is the d/l link for the test Beta for "Army Group Centre". I look forward to getting your squad's report!

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20048443/m7_agc.zip

Uzin 27.02.2011 23:25

Well , I dare also to d/l your map. Installed in my 4.10 SASmodact ver.2.5 with Boomer's object pack successfully, it loads well in FMB, mission there created saved and loaded OK. The map of the region involved is undoubtedly needed.
Just first impressions and my 2pences:
You probably used auto population tool, otherwise I cannot imagine how you can achieve that population density, lol.
As it concerns the colour of woods at ed_m0X.tga files, it seems to me too sharp, perhaps making it a bit chequered would be more pleasant to eye.
Highways and roads and railways on these maps woud be, perhaps, better and simpler to make by their extraction from map_T.tga file, than drawing by hands, as it was perhaps done.
Looking forward to your future work, wishing you all the best.

mandrill7 28.02.2011 01:36

The roads and highways are extracted from map_t. They are accurate, but the colour substitution turned out to be a little sloppy. By the time I did the 2D maps, I just wanted the project DONE and was not aiming for artistic perfection.

The population took me WEEKS. It's done by cut and paste from templates which were deleted at the end of the process.

I'm glad the map d/l-ed successfully and I hope people get a lot of enjoyment from it.

Thanks for trying it out.

Kaiser 28.02.2011 13:29

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Guten Tag / Privyet, Kaiser!

Here is the d/l link for the test Beta for "Army Group Centre". I look forward to getting your squad's report!

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20048443/m7_agc.zip

Guten Tag!
Kampfgeschwader 55, The task is received!:crazy_pilot:

andrey65 28.02.2011 14:33

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Guten Tag / Privyet, Kaiser!

Here is the d/l link for the test Beta for "Army Group Centre". I look forward to getting your squad's report!

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20048443/m7_agc.zip

I tried ..
Excellent!

Karabas-Barabas 01.03.2011 01:19

Хорошая карта.

Только аэродромы бы травяные = крашеные зеленкой бетонки из первого Ила заменить на что-то типа с карты Бессарабия. А вот крупномасштабную карту наоборот лучше приблизить к топографическим как раз из родного Ила.


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