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Army Group Centre/Группа армий "Центр" (made by mandrill7)
I have a map for Belarus which covers the area Polotsk-Vyazma-Bryansk-Gomel-Bobruisk.
I gave up working on it about a year ago because it was taking so much time. Now I am starting to do more work on it. The basic map is done and about half the roads, railways and airfields are put in. Because the map is so large, much of the terrain is still unfinished. I anticipate that it might be ready to populate in the autumn if I keep working on it. While I do not want to be a "quitter", a map of this size takes months and months to complete. |
У меня есть карта для Белоруссии, которая покрывает Полоцк-Bryansk-Gomel-Bobruisk области.
Я бросил работать над этим приблизительно год назад, потому что требовалось так много времени. Теперь я начинаю делать больше работы над этим. Основная карта сделана и приблизительно половина дорог, железные дороги и аэродромы вставлены. Поскольку карта является настолько большой, большая часть ландшафта все еще незакончена. Я ожидаю, что это могло бы быть готово населить осенью, если я продолжаю работать над этим. В то время как я не хочу быть "лодырем", карта этого размера занимает месяцы и месяцы, чтобы закончить. Примерно так... |
Сейчас получил такой вот пост на ААС от mandrill7. Прошу помочь етому картоделу , поделиться с ним инфой. Думая, што вопросы понятны.
1940's maps of Belarus, Ukraine? Can you help me ask on the Aviaskins board for guys who have city plans of Smolensk, Orsha, Mogilev, Vitebsk, Gomel', Bryansk or Dnepropetrovsk? I have nothing except modern maps and these are very inaccurate for 1940's. As well, I badly need a detailed map of the Dnepr from Kanev to Dnepropetrovsk. The maps I have are modern and therefore completely inaccurate because of the big new reservoirs. Any help appreciated. |
My Army Group Centre map should be available as a WiP in a week or two.
The map will be done, except for populating and some tidying up. I will be getting a new (and far more powerful) computer in a few weeks and that will be handy to populate the map. |
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It is taking a little longer than I thought. I have done the airfields and the big cities - Mogilev, Vitebsk, Polotsk, Gomel, Borisov, Babruisk, Orsha and Bryansk - and also most of the smaller cities - Vyazma, Roslavl, etc.
I need a map of Smolensk from the 1940's and then I can do it too. I am finishing a template for the small towns and then I can do them as well. The map is currently perfectly flyable. |
mandrill7,
http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_007.htm Here you will find the necessary parts to you from the big map of the Smolensk region (1937 -1939): http://www.vseokladah.ru/forum/2-61-1 Here is the translation of this page: http://translate.google.com.ua/trans...forum%2F2-61-1 P / S. Please give a link where to look for your project? |
Spassiba, Mixx. I will check out that site a little more.
Actually, I found a street map of Smolensk on the wwii-photos-maps.com site that I can use, along with Google Earth to give me an good idea of the size and shape of World War Two Smolensk and so I can finish it. My Belarus map has not been uploaded yet. BTW, I am also beginning to work a little on a "Cherkassy Pocket" project which will cover the Dnepr from Dnepropetrovsk to just south of Kiev. I have the 1:50,000 maps for the area from the wwii site, but there are 3 or 4 missing from the site. Do you know an alternate Web source for these maps? |
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to Mandill7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagarin,_Russia Till 1968 the city was called Gzhatsk. Into 1968 city has been renamed in "Gagarin" in honour of the first-ever cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin who was born in 1934 in village Klushino close by a city and the perished in 1968. http://www.gagarinadmin.ru/index/0-24 http://www.gagarinadmin.ru/photo/sta...nyj_gzhatsk/24 |
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My congratulations for such a great job!:beer: Pls, show more screenshots of this map... |
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Here are 3 more screenshots.
Here, I am flying over Krugloye, a village west of Orsha in Belarus. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...krugloye01.jpg |
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nkovichi01.jpg
I am flying over Besankovichi, a small town on the Dvina River between Polotsk and Vitebsk. |
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1.../bryansk01.jpg
Here, I am flying north along the Desna River over the southern part of Bryansk. |
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Thanks.
I preferred the green texture for riverbanks. |
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You are doing yourself a texture fields? (Colored plots) |
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@ DeSad: Just personal taste, I guess. I prefer to just use the beach texture for sea coasts.
@Mixx: I have made several variants on the basic Romania lowlands textures to achieve various results. There are autumn textures with the crops replaced by bare, brown earth. I have moved the yellow and brown fields around on the "summer" textures. And I have made a texture with blue " drainage canals" which you see in the Dvina screenshot. This is an attempt to portray the vast areas of drained marshland in Belarus. There are extensive areas in which drainage canals have been dug to allow the land to be made drier and used for farming. I am not 100% happy with the texture; but it is more satisfactory than just using ordinary tiles that do not indicate a difference from the normal land. I used a Romania tile and cut and pasted the canals from Compans' Dutch tile onto it and then tidied it up a little. I also made a "green" version of the standard Slovakia "country" tile so it looked better with the Romania tiles I use. |
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P.S. It seems to me that sometimes sand ashore would be useful :rolleyes: |
Here the plane is flying north along the Sozh River, over the city of Gomel'. I am using a Autumn load.ini.http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...l-autumn01.jpg
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the plane is flying south along the Sozh river over the village of Krichev, north of Gomel'. The area to the east of the river is marshland.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1.../krichev01.jpg |
I am now working with a new, more powerful computer and anticipate having a beta version of the "Army Group Centre" map available to download by the end of February or sooner. :-)
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The map will be ready in 4 or 5 days, maybe less.
I am interested in testing for download and installation problems before generally announcing the map on the English language boards. If anyone is interested in a "preview", please let me know. :-) |
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No. I will publish on the English language forums as well.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ns/2dmap01.jpg |
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Super!
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Spassiba, Kaiser. I will let you know when I have a download link up and your squad can test the map for a week or two.
Appreciate the help! |
Guten Tag / Privyet, Kaiser!
Here is the d/l link for the test Beta for "Army Group Centre". I look forward to getting your squad's report! http://www.gamefront.com/files/20048443/m7_agc.zip |
Well , I dare also to d/l your map. Installed in my 4.10 SASmodact ver.2.5 with Boomer's object pack successfully, it loads well in FMB, mission there created saved and loaded OK. The map of the region involved is undoubtedly needed.
Just first impressions and my 2pences: You probably used auto population tool, otherwise I cannot imagine how you can achieve that population density, lol. As it concerns the colour of woods at ed_m0X.tga files, it seems to me too sharp, perhaps making it a bit chequered would be more pleasant to eye. Highways and roads and railways on these maps woud be, perhaps, better and simpler to make by their extraction from map_T.tga file, than drawing by hands, as it was perhaps done. Looking forward to your future work, wishing you all the best. |
The roads and highways are extracted from map_t. They are accurate, but the colour substitution turned out to be a little sloppy. By the time I did the 2D maps, I just wanted the project DONE and was not aiming for artistic perfection.
The population took me WEEKS. It's done by cut and paste from templates which were deleted at the end of the process. I'm glad the map d/l-ed successfully and I hope people get a lot of enjoyment from it. Thanks for trying it out. |
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Kampfgeschwader 55, The task is received!:crazy_pilot: |
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Excellent! |
Хорошая карта.
Только аэродромы бы травяные = крашеные зеленкой бетонки из первого Ила заменить на что-то типа с карты Бессарабия. А вот крупномасштабную карту наоборот лучше приблизить к топографическим как раз из родного Ила. |
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