Извините, што вмешиваюсь.
Стало мне жаль как турбопроп мотора, так и 3Д Тукана. И сел и написал письмо Бео, см. ниже.
Што мне ответил, тоже см. ниже. Вдобавок мне в личку написал предупреждение, тоже см. ниже.
У меня нет слов.
Еще раз извиняюсь, што вмешался, но только примирия и всеобщей пользы хотел я.
Uzin
Post subject: Tucano with true turboprop engine sim
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:38 am
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Hi,
I just read that anybody from here did not allow to use present 3D model of Tucano to lacota aka Skipper , whose team of aircraft engineers at dispersalfield.ru is developing true sim of turboprop engine just for this plane. I cannot believe that there are any real reasons for this. I hope the ban could be removed in the interests of the whole Il2 community, in intentions of free modding which I admire so much.
Wishing all the best for Merry Xmas and Happy New Year,
Ivan Uzin.
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Post subject: Re: Tucano with true turboprop engine sim
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Uzin wrote:
Hi,
I just read that anybody from here did not allow to use present 3D model of Tucano to lacota aka Skipper , whose team of aircraft engineers at dispersalfield.ru is developing true sim of turboprop engine just for this plane. I cannot believe that there are any real reasons for this. I hope the ban could be removed in the interests of the whole Il2 community, in intentions of free modding which I admire so much.
Wishing all the best for Merry Xmas and Happy New Year,
Ivan Uzin.
Firstly I do not know this 'team of aircraft engineers' at dispersalfield.ru. If it is the same ones we have seen work from in the past, then we're not exactly enthusiastic of their engineering degrees. This is not knocking anything they've done, yet it is exactly how we feel from seeing so many half-finished projects or projects with serious problems. Secondly, as far as I know, no permission was 'asked' to use the work mentioned, and it is 'original' work...not heir.him stretching or franken-work. Skipper has an extraordinarily 'bad' habit of 'lifting' other's hard work without permission, jumbling about with it then releasing it as his own 'improved' work (whether it is improved or not.)
He has done this to my own work many times in the past, jumping AHEAD of me on my 'own' project and cutting the legs out from under work I was in the process of doing (and had invested many hours into) with no notice to me or any indication of what he was doing...and of course without asking.
And a person's work, in especially 3D work is HIS OWN WORK... and he shouldn't have to worry if someone is just going to 'grab it' and do things to it before he's even had a chance to fully develop it himself! So with this plane's creator being a bit upset over someone doing that (without permission) I can fully understand.
No author should have to worry about releasing his work and whether someone will just GRAB IT and make alterations without asking.
That is both petty and ridiculous!
The 'interest' of the whole IL2 community is NOT served by one or a few people that lack the skill to make their own mods and must grab 'other' people's original work in a frenzy of modifications and releases with no good attempt to notify or work with the original creator/creators. How is that helping anyone except the ones doing such things...and the 'greedy' people that just want/want/want more/ more/ more and are never happy or satisfied with what they get and think that getting NEW stuff, no matter how under-handed, is somehow worth the method used?
There is a proper way to conduct ALL business among fellow humans... but the above ^^^ is not it. There is a way for all that want new things to have them, but again the above ^^^ is not it.
Are you saying that we do not already give enough? That YOU and people like YOU are entitled to MORE than we can freely give? :shock: Are you saying we have no rights to our own work and everything we do, including original 3D is 'up for grabs' for any greedy person that wants to grab it?
I 'clearly' do not understand your reasoning for coming here and making such demands upon us...or for that matter, going anywhere and making such demands.
Here it is, Christmas time, and we have worked our behinds off here to give FREELY to the community our very BEST work... and yet that is NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU? you want, no, demand more. and MORE! :o
how about a 'thank you' in appreciation for work already done, already freely given?
I truly believe that you should quickly 're-think' and 'reconsider' your words in this post... and look to what GIVING (and APPRECIATION) truly means and is all about.
I must confess...this floors me. :?
Beowolff
This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: viewtopic.php?f=3&p=32621#p32621 .
This was an unbelievable and most selfishly rude post placed here...and at Christmas time and with no appreciation of the hard work our authors have ALREADY given freely. I am in strong hopes that an apology is forthcoming to all concerned, and that such a post will NEVER be placed here again.
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